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  • There Is No Diffie-Hellman but Elliptic Curve Diffie-Hellman

    Posted: 2025-05-24 20:53:11

    The article argues that while "Diffie-Hellman" is often used as a generic term for key exchange, the original finite field Diffie-Hellman (FFDH) is effectively obsolete in practice. Due to its vulnerability to sub-exponential attacks, FFDH requires impractically large key sizes for adequate security. Elliptic Curve Diffie-Hellman (ECDH), leveraging the discrete logarithm problem on elliptic curves, offers significantly stronger security with smaller key sizes, making it the dominant and practically relevant implementation of the Diffie-Hellman key exchange concept. Thus, when discussing real-world applications, "Diffie-Hellman" almost invariably implies ECDH, rendering FFDH a largely theoretical or historical curiosity.

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    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44083753

    Hacker News users discuss the practicality and prevalence of elliptic curve cryptography (ECC) versus traditional Diffie-Hellman. Many agree that ECC is dominant in modern applications due to its efficiency and smaller key sizes. Some commenters point out niche uses for traditional Diffie-Hellman, such as in legacy systems or specific protocols where ECC isn't supported. Others highlight the importance of understanding the underlying mathematics of both methods, regardless of which is used in practice. A few express concern over potential vulnerabilities in ECC implementations, particularly regarding patents and potential backdoors. There's also discussion around the learning curve for ECC and resources available for those wanting to deepen their understanding.