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  • The Halting Problem is a terrible example of NP-Harder

    Posted: 2025-04-17 07:34:08

    The Halting Problem is frequently cited as an example of an NP-hard problem, but this is misleading. While both are "hard" problems, the nature of their difficulty is fundamentally different. NP-hard problems deal with the difficulty of finding a solution among a vast number of possibilities, where verifying a given solution is relatively easy. The Halting Problem, however, is about the impossibility of determining whether a program will even finish, regardless of how long we wait. This undecidability is a stronger statement than NP-hardness, as it asserts that no algorithm can solve the problem for all inputs, not just that efficient algorithms are unknown. Using the Halting Problem to introduce NP-hardness confuses computational complexity (how long a problem takes to solve) with computability (whether a problem can even be solved). A better introductory example would be something like the Traveling Salesperson Problem, which highlights the search for an optimal solution within a large, but finite, search space.

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    HN commenters largely agree with the author's premise that the halting problem is a poor example for explaining NP-hardness. Many point out that the halting problem is about undecidability, a distinct concept from computational complexity which NP-hardness addresses. Some suggest better examples for illustrating NP-hardness, such as the traveling salesman problem or SAT. A few commenters argue that the halting problem is a valid, albeit confusing, example because all NP-hard problems can be reduced to it. However, this view is in the minority, with most agreeing that the difference between undecidability and intractability should be emphasized when teaching these concepts. One commenter clarifies the author's critique: it's not that the halting problem isn't NP-hard, but rather that its undecidability overshadows its NP-hardness, making it a pedagogically poor example. Another thread discusses the nuances of Turing completeness in relation to the discussion.